Seydi Fırat: 'Delay did not consider the Kurds'

Seydi Fırat: 'Delay did not consider the Kurds'



"London was concerned about the Kurds in the event of exit. A few days we thought would be useful to postpone. We are against the long delay. "

"Mass demonstrations in the region and enthusiasm in the West is perceived as a counter-demonstration. However, the Kurds are celebrating peace to approach and give support to peace with this show. "

"If you will turn Kandildekiler democratic solution. I do not have to stay in a mountain sevda necessarily. Is not military operations, the PKK, in Turkey, even a bird will not hit. "
WHY: Seydi Firat
Oil lamps from the group from and foggy Habur be met with large demonstrations in the country's particular response Batı'sında caused. This "show the PKK's victory as" characterized WITH THE was furious. This anger, in the peaceful Kurdish problem "opening up" has led to stop for a while. Why such a demonstration was held in Habur? The Kurds were celebrating what? Think about peace? In what circumstances will leave PKK weapons? Kandil all future? How to decide who was the next? What they did last week in sleepy? How greeted in Turkey? Now what? Kurds, how to assess response in the West? Group will continue the development of peace? To continue, how the Kurds are preparing to meet next? All of this a decade ago with a similar group of peace to come to Turkey for five years in prison, and a new peace group from sleepy to receive and accompany them to the border and entered Turkey during talks with officials at the group's spokesman who asked Seydi to the Euphrates.

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NEŞE FIX: You came to Turkey a decade ago were in the group PKK. Today, the new arrivals in camps in northern Iraq from the get sleepy, and among those who have brought to Turkey. Ten years with two "return home" event to have lived. Is there a difference between how was it?

Seydi Firat: One times ten years ago, conditions were different in Turkey. State's approach to us and us perception was different. 1999 states, "the organization's leader was captured, the organization enters into liquidation process," he was thinking. Because, in this country since 1800 has been a large number of Kurdish rebellion. O revolts, leaders are caught liquidation. That same team again did not revolt.

Who disobeyed it?

In the next process in place and the riots were carried out by all new staff. Therefore, the dominant perception of the state in 1999 "PKK will be finished soon. Will be marginalized if not completely collapse, would be very ineffective organization. With a great sense of peace to the development of the PKK should not be given "was in the direction of the coalition government, though Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit during that time period," will meet the income they tolerate, "he said, but all of us on, on five-year penalty gave.

You, what a decade ago, while expectations of you in?

PKK, the Kurdish problem is now a military solution is the end of the process, a moment ago put an end to armed struggle to be believed. PKK was ready for it. The government probably for the solution of the Kurdish problem peacefully in the future would develop a framework, based on this concept, but ... State, no military was not prepared to finish the process. Indeed, when we have imposed on us Pişmanlık Act. "We regret," he did not, "we approach in good faith with Ocalan's call came as a" he, and we have received severe penalties.

Ten years ago to decide who is the next?

Gene had been a call of Ocalan. Call center management was assembled on the PKK. For example, I came to Turkey as an individual I had no idea. The Council called me and said, "we have you see fit, what do you say to this proposal," they said. I also "ok" I said. Appropriate because ... Is the organization I was in the long term. I had a specific political background. In addition, an armed action, did not attend.

It is many years in the mountains not to join the armed action possible?

Course possible. Why is possible to get. Anyone who participated in the mountain armed action will be no such thing as that.

Who met with you in Turkey?

Our expressions in Van Gendarmerie when taken in with us from Ankara nine, ten people met a delegation. We asked to talk. Answer, "the state would talk to" was. These Foreign Affairs, Security, Intelligence and the Gendarmerie were people from the. Clearly not ready for peaceful settlement of the state we have seen.

What you asked?

One, the case is within the PKK? Enter each other? Do spread the PKK leadership gap? First, we wanted to learn. Two, Do you have a relationship with the PKK's foreign intelligence agency, no mu, were very curious. Three, have a relationship with the PKK heroin with cannabis? None of these questions were not for peace. The state democratic way to the solution of the problem was not ready mentally. They treat us very strict. Network gave penalties.

Did you know you can serve while rotating?

Knew. Had not afford to serve. But the ten-year prison sentence had not thought to be given. "Probably two and a half, three years, we'll sleep. Even as a good faith approach also may leave us free "he thought. But when we came there on that mentality, we recognize that you may go heavy penalties. In fact, at that time not to resort to armed struggle approach organizations have entered into a strategic change was gone.

Ocalan was captured after you do this?

Sure. Organization, leaving the gun approach and this approach to entry into the four, five years continued. Second, the organization, rather than an independent Kurdistan within the framework of a democratic Turkey to ask for solutions began. Third, organizations, Turkey's entire armed forces pulled out of Iraq. Five hundred casualties, but did it. We are out of one side of the border in Turkey, while the operation is going on for us on the one hand, repair, on groups of five in a row die are invalid. We came to Turkey in such an environment, but at that time soldiers, civilians will also see our press that we did this step. Opportunity did not, did not show an effort to promote a peaceful solution.

Night before returning to Turkey in Kandil what you are doing, what you feel Do you remember?

We were near the end of the lamps to Turkey. We were 50-60 persons. Has been a very emotional atmosphere. Friends were lost sheep. We told folk songs. Who was crying. We were eight friends such farewells. Organization was the first time such a step. Culture and tradition in the Middle East, the Middle East in such a situation is no psychology of organizations.

What is not?

Guerrilla group sent to the opposing party itself has no status. All that is said. "Turkey needs to take into consideration the sensitivity of public opinion" it said. My respects. Yes, Turkey should take into consideration the psychology of public opinion, but the truth is the other side? You do not need to take into consideration? Such a step is easy to do? This is very difficult and is heavy.

To take such a step, why is heavier?

As the surrender can be handled. Indeed, in the mountains, the mountains outside of the Kurdish intellectuals and some political parties, peace groups as they surrender. Organization of its elements, in sending their staff to Turkey. This is never an easy thing is nothing. This is not understood the difficulty of the value of the steps taken at the time unknown, is not understood. Indeed, a large part of western Turkey and intellectuals close to this step are very cheap. This approach to the Kurdish people in the dramatic sense, leads to frustration.

Today, we come back to those who ... How were they determined?

Ocalan's call for peace groups are coming on the sleepy management 26 people, Kandil management among the ones that have not participated in armed conflicts, women of various age groups, men chose eight people.

To get you alone group did you go to sleepy. Last week before the actual turn what has happened in foggy night?

That night he told folk songs, speeches were made and are still their cry. Grubundakiler have expressed feelings of peace. To tackle the problem of the Kurds as long as the occasion said they participated.

Those who were anxious to return?

Were worried. These, 15-16 years, the big pain in the sleepy, have trouble people. Between the years 1992-94 in villages were evacuated, unsolved murders, saw, people experienced great pressure. As of right now their sacrifices for peace, democratization to be a positive contribution, they want to stop the conflict and blood. So to me, ten years experience in the first peace group asked.

Habur enters from the PKK day, according to the Anatolia News Agency located in the newspaper, a battalion in Cukurca Hakkari PKK is attacking with mortars and a soldier is wounded. Peace is when you fight?

Sending peace groups such as PKK do not believe anything. PKK sends peace groups, while a positive effect on public opinion, wants to create a peaceful approach. If military units in order to destroy the PKK is not on the peace process has come to the group PKK in a single weapon does not explode. PKK such an action are not allowed. This is a general concept. We, ten years earlier, even the ones we're living in the process. At that time the armed struggle in the process of action completely stopped. Indeed, military forces, the PKK somehow does not enter the conflict by saying five, repair PKK member were executed.

You turn on this one is different from the previous year, when did you believe?

We entered from rural areas to Turkey in 1999. Dialogue was established lawyers. Military forces to meet us at the entrance to Turkey. We entered the door to Turkey in 2009 Habur. With peace and democratic solution in 1999 as a brigadier general in Semdinli meet us at it, lieutenant governor in 2009 a group of us meet in Habur said. That was a civilian power meet. This is the solution of the Kurdish problem in the political power is no longer intervened. We are the group's spokesman, three people before we speak with the lieutenant governor. Next to the asker had no lieutenant governor. There was a group of civilian-dressed staff. They were saying something to ears constantly.

What can you say assistant governor?

We asked him how the procedure will apply. "My task here, I simplify procedures, to help you," he said. We in the group from Kandil, the President, Prime Minister, Speaker of the Parliament and the Council signed the letter are written to the Chief of Staff. "Group wants to give this letter by hand" We said. This demand was not accepted. Lieutenant governor, "will bring you to the prosecution. What happens if there's case, I can not tell him already. We impose our custom, our approach means we will not be forced. Will show how a democratic approach. We want to help, "he said. We got back to the group's next ...

Yes ...

Repentance and degrading approaches impose them in the direction of an approach would not be detected, we tell. Thus we come to Turkey and went to customs. Peace group 12-13 were released hours after the query.

This is how the Kurds return?

Kurds, the problem will be solved in peaceful feeling içindeler. Already very large, so the development of the peace group was celebrated with a participation. Kurds celebrate the participation and wanted to give support to peace. Kurds as a people who want peace not. Kurds peace, not war-damaged public.

Hopeful about the future of peace in the Southeast now?

According to the past want to be more hopeful and expectant. There are a reaction against the Kurds in the West. The mass demonstrations occurred in the region and enthusiasm in the West is perceived as a counter-demonstration. In the West and enthusiasm shown to the public reaction to these demonstrations, the Kurds are concerned. However, the Kurds and the celebrations with demonstrations give support to peace. They to participate in the peace process, to become the subject of peace, they want to spend for peace efforts. Kurdish demonstration of their enthusiasm, the celebrations in a beat-to evaluate the equation to be eaten, and very dangerous to society that it is an approach to detect. By the middle of a victory, not defeat of one side. Only one request in the middle of peace, democratic solutions are celebrations.

PKK flags and slogans in celebration, how do you explain a team of extremism?

This still is not a special table. These slogans and flags at the rally there were hundreds before it. Moreover, the lowest level they were in this celebration. Also speaking was also very cautious. Therefore, Turkey does not consider any of the public perception of the senses is not true. Some sectors in the West, 'return home' to celebrate the recognition and perception is very wrong format. "Kurds, return home to celebrate the victory in the air. Into a home victory are concluded "I think these segments in the society, 'the state does not show the will of the state was defeated, the triumph of the opposite side, the Kurds say the state does not' want to create a perception.

Turkey has been trying to create any sense of defeat you say?

Yes. This is both very wrong and very dangerous. They perceived the state as they give the Turkish government. State government as the Turks and the state just as the Turks to show the need for protecting a structure is a problem in itself. In addition, peace, everyone is an advantage to all of us. Everyone is the defeat of the war. About two hundred years before the age of logic, something can not be won by war. "I will win the war with the land, continue to do so" no. If you want to be a democratic prosperous country, it does not have another way of peace.

Is experiencing a strange situation. Turkey closer to peace, while the Kurds and Turks are away from each other. So that, Turkey had never been closer to peace, the Turks and the Kurds had never been away from each other. How this contradiction explains the Kurds?

This is a critical process. Kurdish issue, the first time since the republic's founding, this is being discussed at a level far. This discussion within the government, army, government and other institutions, civil society organizations where everyone is included. This situation, while promising, spokesman of the Turkish nationalist MHP and the CHP are concerned about preventing a peaceful solution. Concentrated in the provinces of the western migration of the Kurds against the Kurdish nationalist approaches are happening.

Do you think one more weapon explodes?

I pray to avoid explosion. Outdoor tell. Such a possibility there. "The armed conflict over the process, date buried," he can not. The day we arrived in Turkey as a peace group, military planes bombed Kandil. Will understand, heavily military operations at home and abroad continues. If the heavy military operations and bombings continue, the political arena if the arrests continue, democratization is not taken steps ...

What happens if the results?

Process again evrilir conflict. But also a fact that Turkish nationalism is not the main vessel. A considerable number of Turks also wants peace. Because the war lasted too long. All of us were very tired. We all hurt, we have suffered. We all have lost something. Do not lose this war? Already a inner conflict cost of having to deal with other states is much more severe. Because the internal conflicts but also the social relations of society, their feelings are very deeply disturbing. Insecurity is dragged into society, Society brings patients to a state. Disease treated with the peace we need in society. Fluctuation of morale in society, concerns, doubts and feelings have to repair defects.

Kandil we return to ... Lamps will return all?

If you will return to a democratic solution. I stay in the Kandil mountains, a sevda illa, a life there can be no philosophy. I like to stay in the mountain armed with yet ...

How to convert will take place?

This development is a return. This development, conversion is a sub-steps, is a framework of descent from the mountains. Why is not this on? Further democratization of this development may have a high level. Something that develops in Turkey at the steps, if, take turns. PKK wants to see See.

Want to see what?

You really democratic consensus in favor of Turkey? Turkey is conducting a liquidation or concept? PKK to see it, I want to. Also wants to understand DTP. DTP also too heavy for operations, arrests happened. Half of the administration of DTP is now in prison. Meanwhile, the war planes bombed Kandil is every day. Kurds, this is a peace process or a liquidation process, it wanted to emerge.

You first peace group. Ten years ago when you return the danger of arrest. Customers are now those who were released. Rate This peace process is not a sign that the process of liquidation?

This a positive sign for peace. Kandil also see it like that.

Peace groups to develop PKK to Turkey was given a break. Then what would you guess would be?

Government's response to all the nationalist circles, and to avoid accusations of democratic strides but I would think. Various sectors disrupt the peace and democratization process are pressing for. AKP are trying to dominate. Ergenekon pressure forces, the nationalist segment of the audience in the West is provoking From the government pull. Discontinuation of this process, the AKP does not bring benefits to Turkey.

Peace groups from Europe in Istanbul on Wednesday to meet future preparations were being made. Welcoming ceremonies held in the southeast of Turkey in the west of the same cause may also consolidated at the bloody events do not ever come to mind?

Kurdish politicians and institutions, this issue was discussed among themselves a few days, from Europe to develop their thinking and we have been delayed will be useful. Already the government has decided to identify this trend. But we want it to postpone two to three days. We are against a long delay. Reception of format, method and we can rearrange the content. Peace in the region such as the group may not meet. And fewer people to meet with different slogans we can. This may not go into extreme performances. The convoy, however. If a contribution is to be peace in front of DTP is not a greeting, democratic mass organizations made up of Kurds and Turkey can do to meet the common platform. We believe that the Peace Council. AKP-friendly contacts between our are dry. Front of the peace process should not be interrupted. Descent from the mountains and further democratization stops mess will become tense.

Peace can be cut in front of you?

Obstacles can be removed but before peace can not be completely cut off. The process of solving the Kurdish problem with military means over. Not take into account the Kurds, the will of the Kurds, demand the end of the period was not respected. Similarly, Kurds in the process of solving this problem over weapons. Today's world does not accept armed struggle. In Turkey, the armed struggle in this world and the media left. Government in the state in the democratic way of solving the Kurdish problem is developing stability.

In today's world can not continue the armed struggle to understand the PKK Is it?

Received a decision in April 13 PKK has inertia. If not military operations, the PKK within Turkey's borders, even a bird will not hit. I have the feeling this.

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As in the past it!

Great hope that the connection of expansion or the Kurds to undermine confidence in the democratic opening. The issue does not open pop-up will be the democratic opening up hopes of a process that began late in landing.

Our website is still ongoing process began "Turn of the AKP's Kurdish Buluyormusunuz sincere" in our survey 70% expansion sincere I think yes, 30% with no lasting survey results reversed. This day with the results of the 13926th person to vote at the polls, the AKP stands Yes I think the genuine ones at 41.79% [5820], No, the AKP stands do not find the genuine ones from 51.46% [7167], I had no idea who the 6.74% ( 939). At this point the reader survey results of the voting situation is confirming this day.

Power of the opposition and society is experiencing this issue have been psychological warfare. Intensive support of the media at the government did not somehow step. Which projects into the circuit in terms of democratic opening would not say. But especially the USA, Iran, Iraq, Syria and Iraq that the Kurds share some issues with the Federal Government, it is trying to continue with the democratic opening, first outside the state. What the study continued opposition, nor did not share with the people.

Development of group process from oil lamps and foggy from the public concerned was great hope at the point of the solution. None of the PKK group was not arrested from the candles, went to their homes. Democratic aspects of the same question in politics continues in Turkey, the former DTP, this day is still 9 BDP member mayors, elected president in the past 7 to 16 other also among politicians is located around 100 were arrested. Some of the "civil coup" regards as some of the "Kurdish politics tasviye" process referred to as a process where we live.

Becomes a taut nerves as long as "common sense process" to advise other wise I can not recommend a solution.

Government's attitude on this issue as clearly and rising blood pressure-lowering net update, brotherhood projects as soon as I said we need to hear.

The AKP did not speak, but so far old son about the process DTP explained about the process that is also BDP'liler day.

See the former Co-Chair Emine Ayna closed DTP interesting about today's government is in determination. Mirror, "The government has struck the left and right show. So do the left and right-wing politics is struck with the policies. With right-wing politics as well as the most fascist methods "he says.

Baydemir in these days of hard-state "be smart" hard to explain that after the NTV television has brought clarity to the words. Baydemir, "They say we are not at that time, but from the mountains We are in we're in but you would take them into custody" he said.

Baydemir another in the description, "the most moderate politics out of your 'at, do they say. However, we will put all the democratic response of the stone should not stick. States will use the method should not be in the gas gun should not be. I say we open tomorrow, people react when they set out, I'm worried. Someone seeking to use bullets to take us to the street within. We have to disappoint this game. "He said.

Hakkari deputy Hamit Geylani operation, "This re-peace and democracy, namely the BDP'ye is an operation. 25 years to memorize the problem is not resolved. No matter what you drop a new party immediately following such an operation, suffered not to be understood. Cross-border and country is a continuation of operations in this. " added in the form of reviews.

At first, we are in expectation of great hope to stop the blood, not tears of mothers, such as peace and harmony with our human feelings are shocked. More democracy, more freedom at the point these days it may be impossible to understand.

So even in the past so had no arrest and violence. Today, the AKP government is looking to get past the attitude of governments as well as "seg" is impossible not to think.

Today, "or the democratic opening came nerden" I have heard wailing.

Writing the meaning and importance of the AKP government, reflecting today's situation, our region experienced a paragraph I'd like to finish with.

You know, our region is still the slightest health problem with trying to solve the Imam of the charm is that there are people. People simple headaches and other health issues will make the imam goes to the charm.

A man under every night to soak the imam who leads the child. For children from the Imam of the small ablution like to make an amulet. Imam also make amulets and gives. A day later, this time a small child can not be at the stool next to the ablutions. The father of the child carried away the path of the imam who holds the amulet again. The child's father, imam of the child to be brought back to its original request is located. To Imam, "You are worse than the charm with my child." He says.

This is the day that the government, explained to the trouble started in Turkey was a democratic opening.

Anyway, joking apart, but government get us to do as imam of his charm.

Government project called what happened a moment ago open Look at things, if the noise is to be a fight every day;

As already said in a statement that "Muslim persecution of the infidel to" give up give up support matter ...

Where it should not be the end of words.